Interview: Tommy T of Gogol Bordello

World Citizens Brigade

Greed and politics may divide the Earth, but Gogol Bordello is doing what it can to bring the world back together with their new album, Trans-Continental Hustle. Frontman, Eugene Hutz, has described Trans-Continental Hustle as a “quest for solidarity” among the world’s ghettos. And calls his bandmates “unofficial ambassadors for immigrants around the globe.”

Gogol Bordello - Eugene Hutz Interview

by Tina Whelski

There’s method in Eugene Hutz’s madness. And with the release of Super Taranta!, more people are noticing that.

“It’s about fucking time,” says Gogol Bordello’s eccentric band leader. “For years I’ve been reading that my strength is that I’m insane. It’s like smart people at some point have to start realizing that my main strength is not that I’m insane. It’s that I’m actually a pretty fucking good songwriter. That’s the fucking thing that holds everything together.”

But the Kiev-born visionary admits his gypsy punk trans-global rebel rock is a lot to digest.

“I’m pretty psyched that people are starting to see into the band, way past not only its wildness and rowdiness, but actually seeing the hypnotic side as well,” says Hutz. “It is truly a huge band mental-wise, physical-wise, people-wise, and message-wise. If I would be somebody who experiences Gogol Bordello as an outsider, it would probably take me a couple of years as well to wrap my head around it. Maybe I would never wrap my head around it, hopefully. Maybe I haven’t wrapped my head around it now.” (laughs)

Part of the band’s vast appeal lays in the fact that Gogol Bordello is more of a “culture” than a band, according to Hutz. As the tireless performers continue to attract higher profile gigs (like this year’s Live Earth in London’s Wembley Stadium, Coachella, Bonnaroo and Glastonbury) and witnesses its global fan base grow it is possible Hutz is right.

“International recognition and being on the road so much brought us a lot of new extended family,” say Hutz. “It’s a great thing for us because we’re the kind of artistic unit that doesn’t rely on media information about culture and doesn’t rely on DJ’s or some other source of information to hear what’s happening in the world. So it’s much more of a first-hand information kind of process. And that’s how we like it. Consequently, the friends we make and the people who influence us, or we influence, is on the level of a much more authentic bond. It’s pretty exciting to finally make friends with a lot of our heroes and then discover that a lot of them are actually your fans! And then go on to the next level of collaborating and actually in a larger sense realizing that even before meeting each other we were sharing a very similar creative wavelength.”

The unorthodox blend of musical backgrounds and nationalities between band members Sergey Rjabtzev (violin), Yuri Lemshev (accordion), Tommy Gobena (bass), Eliot Ferguson (drummer), Oren Kaplan (guitar), Pam Racine (percussion, dance), Elizabeth Sun (percussion, dance), and Hutz (vocals) is at the heart of every connection. And Hutz believes the band makes a good artistic family because everyone enjoys their own opportunity to shine.

“When the band was just being made, I had a vision for it and I had to be quite controlling about executing it,” says Hutz. “When the band developed, the need to be controlling about it actually fell off, which freed up a lot of space for musicians’ personal styles. That was actually when I think the band actually started to live its real life. Another thing is that because I, being the melodic core of the band, am from Eastern Europe, I always write songs that are instantly recognizable as Eastern European, but yet it’s the whole other line-up of musicians that makes that sound universal. It makes it Eastern European music that people can dig down in Brazil and down in Japan, you know what I mean? That is directly the work of the band. That is the bass lines of Thomas and the guitar of Oren that makes the sound universal. It’s the way that people process information within the band.”

Whether playing gypsy stomp, Flamenco rhythms, speed metal or anything in between, Gogol Bordello’s supercharged trip across musical barriers is ultimately driven by Hutz’s multiple personalities and witty lyrics.

“This album is quite a chameleon,” says Hutz about Super Taranta! “I think all the best albums are. It has a very direct, yet very abstract feeling to it. There are several characters really. The guy who sings “Super Theory of Super Everything” is a different guy than who sings “Dub the Frequencies of Love.”

You might wonder if success will cause Gogol Bordello to lose its anarchic edge. Since 2005’s Gypsy Punks Hutz has explained how reggae and gypsy music created by poor people with nothing to loose first inspired him. Will he still relate to their desperation?

“I don’t really worry about things like that because it’s just not how I think,” says Hutz. “What I write about comes off not only my own personal experience but from the experiences of that extended family. So even if I at this point got all my papers in order, I’m mostly surrounded by people who don’t have them in order (laughs) and there are many different layers and pockets in this topic. The desperation that you’re talking about is not necessarily something that was driven by one particular hardship or another. It’s more of a philosophical thing. There’s a philosophy of life that I write about that’s basically at war with most of the layers of society and culture at the present day. So I don’t see the end of the mother fucking work! The poverty is not the only issue. What about all the rich people who are fucked! (laughs). Of course the poor suffer the most. But that is only one of the layers in the picture…You have to realize that the band, no matter how big it will get, it will always play what it wants to play, how we want to play it and with who we want to play. Nobody tells this band what to do. That in itself is what inspires kids and fans. It fucking inspires me man!”

Gogol Bordello performs at Terminal 5 on November 3.

Watch Gogol Bordello perform "Wonderlust King."

Watch Gogol Bordello perform my favorite "Start Wearing Purple" at Glastonbury 2007.



and performing "Super Theory of Supereverything."



and with Madonna performing "La Isla Bonita."



Interview originally published in The Aquarian Weekly.

Gogol Bordello - Eugene Hutz Interview

GYPSY PUNKS

If a pack of gypsies known as Gogol Bordello pass through your town beware. It means Cultural Revolution is in the air; at least that’s what the band hopes its music, inspired by Ukrainian Gypsy culture, will provoke. And if you find upon listening to the band’s new album, GYPSY PUNKS: Underdog World Strike, (SideOneDummy), you have to forcibly restrain yourself from building a huge fire and leaping over it with a bottle of whatever gypsies drink on a night out, then they’ve succeeded.

Singer/lyricist visionary Eugene Hutz explains that gypsy’s have a savage way of making music, coming from a culture where song is the only means of survival and that like reggae, it was created by poor people who have nothing but music. Experiencing sounds on those terms, Hutz and his collective of Gogol musicians that includes Sergey Rjabtzev (violin, vocals), Oren Kaplan (guitar, vocals), Eliot Ferguson (drums), Yuri Lemeshev (accordion), and Rea Mochiach (bass) continue their crusade to build a bridge between Gypsy music, rock’n’roll and other brands of rebel music from Flamenco to the perestroika punk that blossomed in Eastern Europe during the mid-‘80s.

“I’m naturally attracted to these forms of music because of their authenticity,” says Hutz. “In the West, music became more like a luxury thing. The reasons for making music became more hobby-like. That’s why it’s so un-effective and generally shallow. Gypsy music and reggae and punk come from very particular social settings and that is why their sound and their ideological backbone is so strong and in our own way, our music is authentic not because it is so gypsy or so punk or because I’m from Ukraine or anything like that or Oren is from Israel. It’s authentic because we present our own vision of global culture. We are qualified for that. We lived in many different parts of the world and we do have the comparative characteristic of all of that and we deliver what we feel. We’re not presenting words that have no life experience behind it. It’s really a product of the lifestyle.”

That existence included Kiev-born Hutz’s seven-year trek through Eastern Europe refugee camps to escape the Chernobyl meltdown of 1986, an experience that directly impacted the detailed life imagery and music on the new record, which Gogol Bordello delivers in it’s traditional bedlam atmosphere live.

Stand-out songs on the new album include the humorous “Start Wearing Purple,” an emphatic plea to a woman to lose her charms, wit and beauty, presumably playing on the Russian gypsy adage of ‘if you wear purple you lose your charm,’ “Think locally, Fuck Globally,” with a drum solo played by Hutz on an overturned fire bucket, “Undestructable,” with its hope-hearted rally cry from the masses, “Sally,” the band’s calling card, and “Dogs Were Barking,” with references to the corner of Broadway and Canal streets in New York where Hutz DJs at Bulgarian Bar.

“That’s where basically the center for the whole gypsy punk scene,” says Hutz of Bulgarian Bar. “I’ve been deejaying the party for five years. Now there’s new DJs as well that have developed this tradition in their own way.”

And the scene is picking up momentum.

“The gypsy punk is our own biographical vision of the music, but its amazing there are so many kids that are coming out of the woodwork and getting with this movement,” says Hutz. “There are several others of these bands. Hungry March Band is great and Kultur Shock. Even though they may be simply infatuated with the gypsy culture, the fact that they identify with the spirit is already more of an affirmation of a new rebel voice. It’s already a sign that they’re not buying into manufactured pre-made, so-called rebel bands playing Warped Tour and shit like that. We’re definitely not part of the army of boy bands. [Being on Warped Tour] was more like overthrowing their status quo and seizing thousands of new fans. I think it’s great that so many kids in this country who come for shows are getting into music that we’re propagandizing. It’s essentially a foreign spirit, a foreign cloud that travels on the territory and it obviously reflects their starvation for authenticity.”

Part of Gogol Bordello’s new audience includes Hollywood, with tracks featured prominently in the recent Liev Schreiber movie "Everything Is Illuminated," where Hutz also appeared alongside Elijah Wood.

“I have been offered roles for films before,” says Hutz. “It’s just that I was pursuing always music because that’s my most instinctual passion and I guess I knew it was going to come to acting at one point or another I just was waiting for a good role where I felt like I could put my heart and soul into it… There was much room for creativity and much room for trying out different thing and also learning things I can bring back to Gogol Bordello…I came out of this movie with great friends. When you’ve been working on something so hard, with so much dedication and going through certain struggles and come out with a bond after it—that’s the magic. I think it also speaks in the movie. I think you can see a lot of love and innovative creativity went into that movie. Liev let me do my own thing in a lot of ways and sometimes he would of course try to manipulate me (laughs), but that’s only what directors are supposed to do. Out of all of that the whole process was done in such a good will, it was only about, ‘Let me try it this way because I think this is going to be much better kind of style.’”

Currently Hutz is most excited about Gogol Bordellos’ upcoming appearance at New York Gypsyfest on November 6 at The Roxy where the band will be joined by two of Hutz’s heroes, world-famous clarinetist Ivo Papasov and saxophonist Yuri Yunakov.

“Seeing Yuri play is like solar energy. I could literally go for six months alone on that. Absolutely those guys are heroes for me and I was lucky enough to become friends and collaborators with them, which is something that happened with several other of my favorite gypsy musicians who are worldwide known legends. It is something that is so refreshing from dealing with rock n’ roll musicians where the germ of narcissism and rock stardom no matter what you do still gets in the way…Those guys are essentially heroes to me because they remain so humane. Gypsy culture is distinguished for its love of freedom and void of status quo.”

“Back in the 70’s in Bulgaria, there was this government policy of eliminating foreign elements from the culture,” continues Hutz. “What Yuri and Ivo used to do was mix up Arabic and Turkish and gypsy with Slovac and that was considered to be basically anti-government activity. So Yuri went to jail and was working during the day digging fucking pavements with a sledgehammer in downtown--enforced manual labor work. People would walk around, ‘What the fuck. Is this Yuri?’”…They did incredibly unorthodox things in their day and they also see that what we do with gypsy music is unorthodox as well. It’s a reincarnation of the rebel spirit. Every generation has to basically invent a voice for itself…Gogol Bordello is not just a band, it’s more of a culture. You can see the way it grows. It goes beyond definition of the band. It goes much farther. There are so many creative collaborators of people that are not necessarily professional artists or anything like that, that satellite with us. It’s getting hard to count who’s in the band and who’s not (laughs).”

Gogol Bordello perform at The Roxy November 6.

Originally published in the Aquarian Weekly.